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- It can be morally dubious in some edge cases, such as purely voluntary very-late-stage abortion.  But those cases are rare, and I think that more harm than good comes from attempting to criminalize it.
- It can be morally dubious in some edge cases, such as purely voluntary very-late-stage abortion.  But those cases are rare, and I think that more harm than good comes from attempting to criminalize it.
- Some women who get abortions were pressured into it, and this is a grave injustice.  Rather than banning abortion, I would like to see these women receive support, including material support, to stand strong in their choice to have a child.
- Some women who get abortions were pressured into it, and this is a grave injustice.  Rather than banning abortion, I would like to see these women receive support, including material support, to stand strong in their choice to have a child.
- Some men are less careful with sex, or feel more free to pressure women into risky sex, because they expect that they can just make her get an abortion if she gets pregnant.  This happens much less when abortion is illegal, even if illegal abortion is available.  Many men who feel comfortable pressuring their girlfriend into a legal abortion would not feel comfortable pressuring her into an illegal abortion.
- Some men are less careful with sex, or feel more free to pressure women into risky sex, because they expect that they can just make her get an abortion if she gets pregnant.  My guess is that this happens much less when abortion is illegal, even if illegal abortion is available.  I.e. my guess is that many men who feel comfortable pressuring their girlfriend into a legal abortion would not feel comfortable pressuring her into an illegal abortion.  I don't have any data on this, and I'd be interested to see data if it exists.
- For most women in the US today who have had abortions, the abortion had a net positive impact on their life, compared to the alternative of having to have the child.
- For most women in the US today who have had abortions, the abortion had a net positive impact on their life, compared to the alternative of having to have the child.
- There have been cases in other parts of the world, and in some situations in the US, where legalized abortion has made women's lives worse by making men feel entitled to pressure women into casual sex, or prostitution, and then pressure them into abortions.  For example, the feminist movement in Latin America has sometimes advocated for banning abortion because it was being used in this way.  We should be vigilant about situations like this evolving in the US, and we should take it seriously when people present information to us that suggests this is happening in the US.  You can't just assume they're making it up to try and manipulate you into supporting abortion restrictions for other reasons.
- There have been cases in other parts of the world, and in some situations in the US, where legalized abortion has made women's lives worse by making men feel entitled to pressure women into casual sex, or prostitution, and then pressure them into abortions.  For example, the feminist movement in Latin America has sometimes advocated for banning abortion because it was being used in this way.  We should be vigilant about situations like this evolving in the US, and we should take it seriously when people present information to us that suggests this is happening in the US.  You can't just assume they're making it up to try and manipulate you into supporting abortion restrictions for other reasons.

Revision as of 20:23, 1 May 2024

I believe that one of the most important gaps we need to bridge, as people who care about women's rights, is the gap in understanding about abortion.

It's possible to believe fully that you are right, and to argue passionately for your side, and to engage in the democratic process to encourage legislation that supports your belief, all while acknowledging that a good-hearted, reasonable person might end up disagreeing with you. It's also possible to do all of this without believing that every political loss on your side is a failure of the democratic system.

Here are of my personal beliefs on abortion. I'm putting this out here so you know my biases, since those biases will influence the information I present in this wiki. - It's normally fine. - It can be morally dubious in some edge cases, such as purely voluntary very-late-stage abortion. But those cases are rare, and I think that more harm than good comes from attempting to criminalize it. - Some women who get abortions were pressured into it, and this is a grave injustice. Rather than banning abortion, I would like to see these women receive support, including material support, to stand strong in their choice to have a child. - Some men are less careful with sex, or feel more free to pressure women into risky sex, because they expect that they can just make her get an abortion if she gets pregnant. My guess is that this happens much less when abortion is illegal, even if illegal abortion is available. I.e. my guess is that many men who feel comfortable pressuring their girlfriend into a legal abortion would not feel comfortable pressuring her into an illegal abortion. I don't have any data on this, and I'd be interested to see data if it exists. - For most women in the US today who have had abortions, the abortion had a net positive impact on their life, compared to the alternative of having to have the child. - There have been cases in other parts of the world, and in some situations in the US, where legalized abortion has made women's lives worse by making men feel entitled to pressure women into casual sex, or prostitution, and then pressure them into abortions. For example, the feminist movement in Latin America has sometimes advocated for banning abortion because it was being used in this way. We should be vigilant about situations like this evolving in the US, and we should take it seriously when people present information to us that suggests this is happening in the US. You can't just assume they're making it up to try and manipulate you into supporting abortion restrictions for other reasons. - It's important for women and men to take sex seriously, regardless of what the abortion laws are in your area.



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